Reading such an article as this in the NYTimes just has to make you scratch your head, and also realize to what extent someone there wants to discredit both those supporting the Governor of Wisconsin against the public employee unions and those whom it considers Right Wing Christians. As to the final quote by Julie Ingersoll about Augustine having any relevance here: Augustine was certainly known to many, many influential Christians over the course of more than a thousand years, and openly acknowledged as an influence. So there's a parallel here with….Gary North? The fact that she uses that argument itself should make one wonder about her ability to see connections rightly and argue without bias.